jimmy page or van halen who better?

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  1. zRoCkIsAdDiCtInG

    zRoCkIsAdDiCtInG HWF Guitar Freak

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    a common conflict among many, van halen with speed, page with his classics, whos better?
     
  2. ninja fetus

    ninja fetus I'm a thugged out gangsta

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    halen. Page just had nice melodies while halen had speed consistency and could shred the pants off crowds lol
     
  3. Anti-Trend

    Anti-Trend Nonconformist Geek Staff Member

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    Joe Satriani. Better, faster, cleaner than both. Check him out
     
  4. ninja fetus

    ninja fetus I'm a thugged out gangsta

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    satriani is better. Lol what about jimi hendrix >_>
     
  5. Nic

    Nic Sleepy Head

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    joe satriani rocks. He plays some mas songs that half the time dnt even sound like his plaing a guitar
     
  6. zRoCkIsAdDiCtInG

    zRoCkIsAdDiCtInG HWF Guitar Freak

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    yea i hav like a million of satriani's cds haha hes reli awesome, and hendrix too, but im just askin life and death whos better haha
     
  7. Anti-Trend

    Anti-Trend Nonconformist Geek Staff Member

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    IMHO, Satriani picked up where Hendrix left off, so of course he's better in many ways. It's still subjective though, since Hendrix was in all rights the father of Satch's whole style. :p
     
  8. Egaladeist

    Egaladeist I am the Eg Man

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    If you're speaking about who's the best you left out a few names like ...

    100 Greatest Rock Guitarists

    1. Jimi Hendrix* - Jimi Hendrix Experience
    2. Eric Clapton - Yardbirds, Cream, Derek & The Dominos, Solo
    3. Jimmy Page - Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin, The Firm
    4. Jeff Beck - Yardbirds, Jeff Beck Group, Solo
    5. Eddie Van Halen - Van Halen
    6. Stevie Ray Vaughan* - Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble
    7. Joe Satriani - Solo
    8. Ritchie Blackmore - Deep Purple, Rainbow, Blackmores Night
    9. Steve Vai - David Lee Roth, Whitesnake, Solo
    10. David Gilmour - Pink Floyd, Solo
    11. John Petrucci - Dream Theater, Liquid Tension Experiment
    12. Randy Rhoads* - Quiet Riot, Ozzy
    13. Allan Holdsworth - Solo
    14. Paul Gilbert - Mr. Big, Racer X, Solo
    15. Yngwie Malmsteen - Rising Force, Solo
    16. Phil Keaggy - Glass Harp, Solo
    17. Jason Becker - Cacophony, David Lee Roth Band, Solo
    18. John Mclaughlin- Mahavishnu Orchestra
    19. Duane Allman* - Allman Brothers Band, Derek & the Dominos
    20. Chuck Berry - Solo
    21. Eric Johnson - Solo
    22. Steve Howe - Yes, Solo
    23. Neal Schon - Santana, Journey, Solo
    24. Brian May - Queen
    25. Gary Moore - Thin Lizzy, Colosseum II, Skid Row, Solo
    26. Bo Diddley - Solo
    27. Steve Morse - Deep Purple, Dixie Dregs, Steve Morse Band, Solo
    28. Carlos Santana - Santana
    29. Tony Iommi - Black Sabbath
    30. Buckethead - Guns N' Roses, Solo
    31. Mark Knopfler - Dire Straits, Solo
    32. Marty Friedman - Cacophony, Megadeth, Solo
    33. Nuno Bettencourt - Extreme, Mourning Widows
    34. Shawn Lane* - Willy, Solo
    35. Kirk Hammett - Metallica
    36. Uli Jon Roth - Scorpions
    37. Terry Kath* - Chicago Transit Authority
    38. Alex Lifeson - Rush
    39. Frank Zappa* - Mothers of Invention, Solo
    40. Rory Gallagher* - Solo
    41. Dimebag Darrell* - Pantera
    42. Peter Green - Fleetwood Mac, Solo
    43. Robin Trower - Procal Harum, Solo
    44. Slash - Guns N' Roses, Velvet Revolver
    45. Mick Taylor - John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, Rolling Stones
    46. Robert Fripp - King Crimson
    47. Tom Morello - Rage Against the Machine, Audioslave
    48. Michael Schenker - Scorpions, UFO, MSG, Contraband
    49. Ry Cooder - Captain Beefheart's Magic Band, Solo
    50. Angus Young - AC/DC
    51. Keith Richards - Rolling Stones, Solo
    52. Michael Angelo Batio - Nitro, Solo
    53. John Squire - Stone Roses
    54. Pete Townshend - The Who
    55. Steve Hackett - Genisis
    56. Zakk Wylde - Ozzy Osbourne, Black Label Society
    57. George Harrison* - Beatles, Traveling Wilberys, Solo
    58. Alvin Lee - Ten Years After
    59. Dave Davies - Kinks
    60. Jerry Cantrell - Alice In Chains, Solo
    61. Steve Stevens - Billy Idol
    62. Johnny Winter - Solo
    63. Dickie Betts - Allman Brothers Band, Dickey Betts & Great Southern
    64. John Cipollina* - Quicksilver Messenger Service
    65. Kenny Wayne Shepherd - Kenny Wayne Shepherd Band
    66. Steve Cropper - Booker T. & MG's/Stax sessions
    67. Adrian Belew - King Crimson
    68. Joe Bonamassa - Solo
    69. Steve Lukather - Toto, Solo
    70. Jerry Garcia* - Grateful Dead
    71. Joe Perry - Aerosmith
    72. Prince - Prince & The Revolution
    73. Kim Mitchell - Max Webster, Solo
    74. Adrian Smith - Iron Maiden
    75. Dave Murray - Iron Maiden
    76. Neil Young - Buffalo Springfield, CSNY, Solo
    77. Billy Gibbons - ZZ Top
    78. Tony MacAlpine - Solo
    79. Mike McCready - Pearl Jam
    80. Adam Jones - Tool
    81. Gary Hoey - Solo
    82. Leslie West - Mountain, Solo
    83. Peter Frampton - Humble Pie, Frampton's Camel, Solo
    84. **** Dale - Del-Tones
    85. Vito Bratta - White Lion
    86. Mickey "Guitar" Baker - 50's sessions/ Mickey & Sylvia
    87. John Frusciante - Red Hot Chili Peppers
    88. Ronnie Montrose - Montrose, Edgar Winter Group
    89. Mick Ronson* - David Bowie, Solo
    90. Roy Buchanan* - Solo
    91. Warren Haynes - Allman Brothers Band, Gov't Mule
    92. Vinnie Moore - Alice Cooper, Solo
    93. Robbie Krieger - Doors, Solo
    94. Chris DeGarmo - Queensryche
    95. Jake E. Lee - Cutting Crew, Ozzy, Badlands, Solo
    96. Glen Tipton - Judas Priest
    97. Joe Walsh - James Gang, Eagles, Solo
    98. K.K. Downing - Judas Priest
    99. Eddie Hazel* - Funkadelic
    100. Alex Skolnick - Testament
     
  9. Egaladeist

    Egaladeist I am the Eg Man

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    and if you can't find your favorite there then you can try here...

    101. Doug Aldrich - Burning Rain, Dio, Whitesnake, Solo
    102. Michael Romeo - Symphony X
    103. Vernon Reid - Living Colour
    104. Gary Richrath - REO Speedwagon, Solo
    105. Link Wray - Link Wray and his Ace-Men
    106. Allen Collins* - Lynyrd Skynyrd
    107. Larry "Ler" Lalonde - Primus
    108. Randy Bachmann - Guess Who, BTO
    109. Jeff Healy - Jeff Healy Band
    110. Greg Howe - Solo
    111. Dave Navarro - Janes Addiction
    112. Scott Gorham - Thin Lizzy
    113. Ted Nugent - Ambouy Dukes, Damn Yankees, Solo,
    114. Vivian Campbell - Dio, Whitesnake, Def Leppard
    115. Paul Kossoff* - Free, Back Street Crawler
    116. Ritchie Kotzen - Poison, Mr Big, Solo
    117. Brian Robertson - Thin Lizzy, Motorhead
    118. Andy Summers - Police
    119. John Sykes - Blue Murder, Whitesnake, Thin Lizzy
    120. Scotty Moore - Elvis Presley
    121. Gary Rossington - Lynyrd Skynyrd, Rossington Band
    122. Ty Tabor - Kings X, Jelly Bean, Poundhound, Jughead, Platypus
    123. John Fogerty - CCR, Solo
    124. Ron Wood - Faces, Rolling Stones
    125. Ace Frehley - Kiss
    126. Akira Takasaki - Loudness, Lazy
    127. Michael Wilton - Queensryche
    128. Cliff Gallup* - Gene Vincent's Blue Caps
    129. Richie Sambora - Bon Jovi
    130. George Lynch - Dokken, Lynch Mob
    131. Reb Beach - Winger, Dokken
    132. Nick Drake* - Solo
    133. Tommy Bolin* - James Gang, Deep Purple
    134. Kerry King - Slayer
    135. Thurston Moore - Sonic Youth
    136. Harry Cody - Shotgun Messiah
    137. Lowell George* - Little Feat
    138. Tracii Gunns - Guns N Roses, L.A. Guns
    139. Tom Scholz - Boston
    140. Buck Dharma - Blue Oyster Cult
    141. Jorma Kaukonen - Jefferson Airplane, Hot Tuna
    142. Richard Thompson - Fairport Convention, Solo
    143. Trey Anastasio - Phish
    144. Janick Gers - Iron Maiden
    145. Mick Box - Uriah Heep
    146. Johnny Marr - Smiths, Electronic, Johnny Marr & The Healers
    147. Blues Saraceno - Poison, Solo
    148. Lowman Pauling* - "5" Royales
    149. Timo Tolkki - Stratovarius
    150. Mike Einziger - Incubus
    151. John Christ - Danzig
    152. Jonny Greenwood - Radiohead
    153. Phil Collen - Def Leppard
    154. Andy Timmons - Danger Danger, Ceili Rain
    155. Steve Gaines* - Lynyrd Skynyrd
    156. Ron Asheton - Iggy Pop, Stooges
    157. James Burton - Ricky Nelson, Elvis Presley
    158. Mark Kendall - Great White
    159. Lindsey Buckingham - Fleetwood Mac
    160. Jennifer Batten - Jeff Beck, Michael Jackson, Solo
    161. Matthias Jabs - Scorpions
    162. Carl Perkins* - Solo
    163. Wayne Kramer - MC5
    164. Nils Lofgren - E Street Band
    165. Michael Sweet - Stryper
    166. Robbie Robertson - The Band, Solo
    167. Frank Hannon - Tesla
    168. Trevor Rabin - Yes
    169. Brian Setzer - Stray Cats, The Brian Setzer Orchestra
    170. Martin Barre - Jethro Tull
    171. Kim Thayil - Soundgarden
    172. Pat Travers - Pat Travers Band
    173. Dave Mustaine - Metallica, Megadeth
    174. Rik Emmitt - Triumph
    175. Eddie Cochran* - Solo
    176. Frank Marino - Mahogany Rush
    177. Justin Hayward - Moody Blues, Solo
    178. Tommy Skeoch - Tesla
    179. Warren DeMartini - Ratt
    180. Syd Barrett - Pink Floyd
    181. Don Felder - Eagles
    182. The Edge - U2
    183. Brad Gillis - Night Ranger, Ozzy
    184. Andy Powell - Wishbone Ash
    185. Mick Mars - Motley Crue
    186. Billy Duffy - The Cult
    187. Randy California* - Spirit
    188. Eric Bell - Thin Lizzy
    189. Lita Ford - The Runaways, Solo
    190. Jeff Hanneman - Slayer
    191. Mick Jones - Foreigner
    192. Stone Gossard - Pearl Jam, Temple of the Dog
    193. Duane Eddy - Solo
    194. Mike Campbell - Tom Petty/ Heartbreakers
    195. Glen Buxton* - Alice Cooper
    196. Daron Malakian - System Of A Down
    197. Steven Stills - Buffalo Springfield, CSN&Y, Solo
    198. Roger McGuinn - Byrds, Solo
    199. J. Mascis - Dinosaur Junior, The Fog
    200. James Hetfield - Metallica
     
  10. Nic

    Nic Sleepy Head

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    wow where did uget all those from Egaladeist??
     
  11. Egaladeist

    Egaladeist I am the Eg Man

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    Nic Sleepy Head

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    Wow thanks, nice find
     
  13. Fred

    Fred Moderator

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    Yeah, that list is actually put together pretty good. Except that I hate Steve Vai! Eric Clapton is awesome though... and I think Phil Keagy should've been higher on the list. In an interview, someone said to Eric "What's it like to be the greatest guitarist" and he replied "I dont know, you should ask Phil Keagy." I thought that was cool. Yeah... so there's my 1.3 cents.
     
  14. Anti-Trend

    Anti-Trend Nonconformist Geek Staff Member

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    I absolutely hate those "Top xxx of all time!!1one" lists. I mean, I have personally jammed with guitarists better than half on the list. I find the notion of Hendrix being #1 while Pete Townsend is 54 outright offensive. Besides this, the whole topic is really subjective, since out of 200 guitarists, about 200 styles are represented. It's more of a popularity contest than anything. My $0.50 (that's two gumballs, folks!) :p
     
  15. Anti-Trend

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    OK, I just looked the list over again, and Paco De Lucia, Al Di Meola and John McLaughlin are all absent from the list. Three of the best guitarists of our age. :x: Not even Andrés Segovia, the undisputed father of the modern classical guitar. For goodness' sake, most of the guitarists on the list are rock guitarists, and they left Les Paul off it! :swear:

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  16. Fred

    Fred Moderator

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    That is a very good point! Where the heck is Mr. Segovia!?!
     
  17. Egaladeist

    Egaladeist I am the Eg Man

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    AT :D it's a Rock list...what would a classical guitarist be doing in a rock list! But ya I agree that lists are very dependant on personal tastes...but I liked the fact of having the names and associated bands they played with in a list, just for that sake alone it is nice to have.

    I don't agree with all the standings either and I think more blues guitarists should have been included but as far as lists go it's a good reference piece to have if you like guitarists!


    Personally I would love to have a list of every artist from 1962-1972 and members and what bands they went to, started, or performed with.
     
  18. Big B

    Big B HWF Godfather

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    I also didn't see BB King on that list. That guy can play and make it look completely effortless and natural. I've been to a few concerts, but BB King is such a great guitarist, it's not even funny.

    Mike Eizenger is another great guitarist, especially if you listen to Incubus first disc: Fungus Amongus.

    Brian Setzer is another good guitarist that made it on the list.

    I think they should've put in John Rzeznik from the Goo Goo Dolls. I can't see them coming back any more, but he seems to be a solid modern guitarist.

    Where's Billy Corgan and James Iha? Well, at least they didn't have Kurt Cobain on there (he's not that great of a guitarist, sorry folks, Nirvana sucked)...

    okay, my rant's done.
     
  19. Egaladeist

    Egaladeist I am the Eg Man

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    Ok Big B...I'm going to make you happy...B.B.King just for you...and AT you're no.1...

    All Time Greatest Guitarists Of Any Genres

    1. Andres Segovia
    2. Django Reinhardt
    3. Jimi Hendrix
    4. Chet Atkins
    5. Wes Montgomery
    6. T-Bone Walker
    7. Charlie Christian
    8. B.B. King
    9. Robert Johnson
    10. Julian Bream
    11. Joe Pass
    12. Merle Travis
    13. John McLaughlin
    14. Lenny Breau
    15. Phil Keaggy
    16. Micheal Hedges
    17. Pat Metheny
    18. Sol Hoopii
    19. Sabicas
    20. John Williams
    21. Paco De Lucia
    22. Les Paul
    23. King Bennie Nawahi
    24. Ry Cooder
    25. Jeff Beck
    26. Leo Kottke
    27. Speedy West
    28. John Fahey
    29. Eric Clapton
    30. Jim Hall
    31. George Van Eps
    32. Christopher Parkening
    33. Jimmy Page
    34. Allan Holdsworth
    35. Al DiMeola
    36. Danny Gatton
    37. Joe Maphis
    38. Derek Bailey
    39. Buddy Guy
    40. Adrian Legg
    41. Eddie Van Halen
    42. Eric Johnson
    43. Chuck Berry
    44. Narciso Yepes
    45. Eddie Lang
    46. Bill Frisell
    47. Duane Allman
    48. Steve Vai
    49. John Scofeild
    50. Larry Coryell
    51. Stanley Jordan
    52. Carlos Montoya
    53. Albert King
    54. Lonnie Johnson
    55. Albert Lee
    56. Stevie Ray Vaughan
    57. Elmore James
    58. Buddy Emmons
    59. George Benson
    60. Yngwie Malmsteen
    61. Doc Watson
    62. Koo Nimo
    63. Raymond Kane
    64. Sonny Sharrok
    65. Bola Sete
    66. Laurindo Almeida
    67. Ramon Montoya
    68. Tal Farlow
    69. Noel Boggs
    70. Steve Morse
    71. Jerry Byrd
    72. Tony Rice
    73. Tommy Emmanuel
    74. Gabby Pahinui
    75. Steve Cropper
    76. Baden Powell
    77. Manuel Barrueco
    78. Ledward Kaapana
    79. Sonny Greenwich
    80. Freddie King
    81. Fred Frith
    82. Maybelle Carter
    83. Sandy Bull
    84. Randy Rhoads
    85. David Russell
    86. Davy Graham
    87. John Renbourn
    88. John Abercrombie
    89. Freddie Green
    90. Blind Willie Johnson
    91. Shawn Lane
    92. Larry Carlton
    93. Joe Satriani
    94. Bert Jansch
    95. Keola Beamer
    96. Paco Pena
    97. Muddy Waters
    98. Charley Patton
    99. Kenny Burrell
    100. Robert Fripp
     
  20. ninja fetus

    ninja fetus I'm a thugged out gangsta

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    jimi hendrix was not by any means #1...That is a popularity chart not talent :)
     

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