Discussion in 'New Build / Upgrade Advice' started by Exfoliate, Jul 30, 2005.
what is EPox some manufacturer?, They must be crap if they are.
yeah they make mobos and such but theyre ok.
Willhub. Why would you automatically say they are crap? Personally, I would rather have Abit or Asus, but Epox boards are incredible at overclocking. Check yourself before you commment.
yeah but many things they lack.,.
whoa max, 44? nice dude
so, i still think they are crap, i would want to go with a well known brand becouse there is less chance of anything going wrong wit em cos the well known brands are better quality, now they might by really ace at overclocking, but how long will they last, there prob build out of cheapo parts, i am only guessing, i cant be botherd to find anyhting out about them.
they wont beat a lanparty at overclocking.
They seem very cost effective. The EPoX using the NF4 Ultra chipset has a perfect 5 star review @ newegg. Just because it's a lesser know company doesn't mean it's hopless, ASUS would have started out the same way and was most likely ridiculed. I would have just stuck with a DFI LP myself but I've read about some major stability probs with them. This may have been sorted out by now though.
no but someone said they had a via chipset and it fried itself, and now i see via chips on my intel mobo.
the nforce 4 ultra single pciex16 board got 4.5 stars in PC world, and fell only a point under the MSI K8T Neo4 SLI Platinum and A8N SLI Deluxe in their scorching worldbench
Sounds good, pretty awesome for <$100. Now if I could just confirm the stability, BigB where are you man.?
Okay, I read enough on Newegg to decide that EPoX really wan't the best plan. Too many people were getting DOA boards and more than a few folks were haveing major probs. ABIT is the route I'll most likely be taking
Alright I compiled a list of stuff I would like to order around the end of this summer, a little later if I still need more money but I should only need an extra $200 to cover unexpected costs and shipping. I've decided on everything except for the ram, with which I plan to use for some good overclocking. I've found some good OCz and Patriot PC3200 I really like and with a good price, but I know it won't give me the best oc being PC3200 so I checked out ninja's PC4000 Geil, it was amazing for the price but the latency sucked so I'm a little torn. There's some great OCz PC4000 for $190 which is more than I'd like to pay though it's got the best trimmings of any DDR4000 dimms I've seen @ 2-2-2-8. The only prob, aside from price is the voltage is 3.3v! So you need a good fan blowing on it which is a little tricky for a n00b like me. Please advise on this matter
Otherwise the new list goes as follows:
HITACHI Deskstar 7K250 160GB
COOLMAX CX-550B 550W Power Supply
ABIT AN8-SLI ATX AMD Motherboard
NEC Silver IDE DVD Burner
ARCTIC COOLING FREEZER64
Thermaltake Thunderblade A1910 80mm Sleeve Blue LED Light Cooling Fan (x3)
MGE TITANIUM CA-TITANIUM-S 0W Case
SAMSUNG 990DF-Black 19" CRT Monitor
ASUS EN7800GTX/2DHTV/256 Video Card
With that I can buy the combo deal 3200 for just $140:good:
The following is stuff I'll probably save for later when I get more money as none of it is manditory right now. Depending on my budget this stuff may change.
Sunbeam BlueFlame Ergonomic Illuminated Mouse Black Mouse
Logitech MX310 2 tone Mouse
Logitech 980240-0403 Black Desktop Microphone
Saitek Black Wired Eclipse Keyboard
Logitech 961402-0403 QuickCam Chat WebCam
One more question in addition to the ram dilema, the case has 3 80mm fans which I'm replacing as they'll most likely be loud, but it also has 2 90mm fans. Now the only 90mm fans I could see on newegg were noisey and I wouldn't doubt the ones in the case are too. Would 3 80mm fans be good enough for overclocked components or do any of you know of any 90mm fans <25db's?
Thanks for your help
I'd rather get Western Digital hard drives, they've been kind to me.
My hitachi has worked flawlessly and I've heard great things. Within the good brands it really doesn't vary too much performance wise. Raptors are a bad deal for the storage you get so I'll have to take a different route. In a while I'll probably get another 160gig drive and raid them.
Is there any major advantage of SATA II? Speed would be about the same at least right?
Damn this is a good deal, well for the fastest GPU anyway.
I'll get this if the deal lasts!
sweet deal ex
Turns out my budget will be greatly extended if all works out, if not I'll go back to plan B which isn't half bad but otherwise:
2x Maxtor DiamondMax 10 250GB 3.5" Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM at Newegg.com In raid these puppies will fly.
NEC Silver IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A - OEM at Newegg.com
Thermaltake XASER, Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window - Retail at Newegg.com
Logitech MX510 2 tone Mouse - Retail at Newegg.com
The Saitek Black illuminated keyboard when it comes back in stock.
SAMSUNG 990DF Black 19" CRT Monitor - Retail at Newegg.com
Thermaltake CL-P0025 90mm 1 Ball 1 Sleeve Cooling Fan/Heatsink - Retail at Newegg.com Yup belive it or not I'd opted for this over old Artic Cooling, this seemed to get more promising reviews.
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail at Newegg.com
Bet you're pround of me now zRock
OCZ ModStream OCZ52012U 520W Power Supply - Retail at Newegg.com
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Dual Core Processor - Retail at Newegg.com
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Dual Channel Platinum System Memory - Retail at Newegg.com
CHAINTECH AV-710 Sound Card - Retail at Newegg.com
Leadtek Geforce 7800GT WinFast PX7800GT Extreme TDH Video Card - Retail at Newegg.com
CREATIVE DI5652-1 Modem - OEM at Newegg.com Oooooh, now that's a kick arse modem, bet it'll feel just like DSL
So what do you all think? I know most of you don't like the Maxtors but they got rave reviews and I like the idea of having 500 gigs and 2 16mb caches. Any thoughts, concerns, or suggestions would be fine on me. Thanks.
Excellent, just excellent!
Okay, this reply is a little late, but better late than never.
I don't like Epox because I've had a few Socket A motherboards that either died within a few weeks after purchase or had memory issues with RAM that otherwise worked fine in other systems I had. When I looked into these issues, I found an unusually higher level of complaints (which you will have with every company in the world) compared to the likes of Asus, Abit, Gigabyte, etc. Now, while I have heard that they've gotten a bit better with the 9NPA+ series, I can't really say go at 'em right now. If they continue to have a better track record, I'll let up, but I need to have a good indication that they are moving up.
Now, when DFI started coming out with their LanParty stuff, they had some major issues. I was curious about their nForce 4 boards, since I like to try different companies when I can. From what I'd been reading, these boards looked like DFI had seen the problems of their last gen motherboards and looked to remedy those issues. No, doubt, I would like to try Epox again, but I'm gonna have to see a consistent, positive track record first before I put one in my machine. For a newer enthisast geared company, DFI has come out with some nice motherboards this round. They're stable as hell, yet have some of the best overclocking options you can get. Once Epox can get an acceptable level of solid motherboards out there and maintain that level, I think they can become a good company. What I don't know is if their problems lie in the design, the component choices, the production process, or a combination of the three. I don't know. Whatever it is, the company needs to address these issues. If not, there are companies out there like DFI that come out of nowhere and develop a following very quickly.
I had a socket 7 Epox board that ran beautifully, so I really wonder what the hell happened. My theory is they concentrated too much on the overclocking aspects instead of building a solid base. I think they will eventually fix there problems, as Abit had some stability issues several years back and they've fixed those (although they had some issues related to bad capacitors).
Great work B, thanks mate. I'm a little beyond the point where I'd need to look at an EPoX board now, as I really just concidered them because they had good specs for the price. So at this point it's either the ASUS Deluxe or The DFI LP. I was looking into ABIT and all seemed great but some recent reviews said otherwise. Thanks again.
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