Yes ok i know the idea is for a real driving experience but i had this game for xmas and now & again (normally when the misses is online ) i'll give it a whirl yes fantastic great start small work your way up & whatever but which fool put the vw beetle into a class rally game like cmr 2005 ? talk about crock of shit it's undriveable ! I thought the mark 1 essie was bad but got the hang of it and provided some proper arse hanging out action , but this..... nuff said ! Looks like buying a mag or finding a cheats site (hint hint) to bypass this heap ! LOOK PEOPLE HERBIE WAS A FILM IT'S NOT REAL !!!!!!!!!!!!! :swear: HEADS No i don't like the fighting games (2many fingers to use ) i prefer to destress by thrashing the balls off of a rally car instead or...........taking a pc to bits sssshhhhhhhh all's well (sort of ) at the moment am saving up to upgrade any fears about skill level check out some of my posts! & TRY NOT TOO LAUGH TOO LONG !